Letters to the Editor 11-25-1997
July 28, 2016 at 4:25 p.m.
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- Eisenhower Food Drive - Veteran's Day - Legion Thanks - Gun Safety - Irresponsible Hunter - Sports Discrimination - Veterans Ceremony - Gun Control - Honest People - Discrimination - Make Love, Not War
Eisenhower Food Drive
Editor, Times-Union:CCS' food cupboard was quite bare
And asked the community, "Please share."
The Eisenhower Eagles heard the cry
And responded, "Sure we'll try!"
We want to help those who are in need
So we started to collect with great speed.
The Eisenhower Eagles flew with their wings spread wide
And completed a very successful food drive.
Through the neighborhood they did soar
Collecting, collecting and collecting more
The total, three thousand six hundred and twenty-eight
Items went over the CCS truck tailgate.
The Eisenhower Eagles flew with their wings spread wide
And to those Eagles I can say with pride
Our Community Spirit is truly alive.
Thank you, Eagles
Pat Phillips
Student Council Sponsor
Veteran's Day
Editor, Times-Union:Veterans Day came and went, but no one at Times-Union acknowledged it! Why, I ask?
My husband took a copy of the Veterans Day program to you on Thursday before so it could be printed in Monday's paper. But I guess it was lost on the way to the press.
No "Red, White or Blue" on front page, either. The Leesburg School remembers the veterans. If you get a chance, come down to the American Legion and see their posters.
You tell the veterans that are no longer on this earth or are disabled some way that they are not important to you. I don't think you would like the answer they give you.
I like the freedom of speech I have, because a veteran fought for it, and then to treat him this way.
Old Glory is a beautiful flag and in my book - "God, Old Glory and Veterans" is at the top of the list.
Nondus Creakbaum
American Legion Auxiliary Member
Legion Thanks
Editor, Times-Union:The American Legion Post 49 would like to express their thanks to everybody who helped with the Veterans Day ceremony. Thanks to our speaker, the band, our chaplain and all the other helping hands.
A special thank-you to the ladies for the wonderful food served at the post after the ceremony.
Abe Wertenberger
Vice Commander
Post #49
Warsaw
Gun Safety
Editor, Times-Union:The latest shooting incident will be one more digit to be used as fodder to feed the anti-gun morons. According to the paper the sheriff's office already blames the gun's manufacturer. Notice that nothing is made mention of the apparent negligence of the shooter who had the muzzle pointed in an unsafe direction!
Allen Regenos
Claypool
Irresponsible Hunter
Editor, Times-Union:During the morning of Nov. 19, someone shot and killed a deer on my property within 60 feet of my home.
To the hunter who killed this animal, this deer was on my property! You fired your weapon toward my home! You left this animal in my back yard for me to clean up and remove!
First of all, that animal was feeding in my yard. You do not have the right to hunt on my property without my permission.
Second, you pointed your weapon toward my home and my family. I have a wife and two children who I love very much. I don't appreciate the danger you created in pointing your gun at my house.
For the hunters who are saying right now this deer was shot elsewhere and walked on my property, Bull! This animal was hit just above the left front leg and exited above the right front leg. The hole size on the right side was the size of a baseball. Its left front leg was broke and there is no way this animal walked to where it died.
Third, you left this dead animal in my yard. You shot it! There were footprints in the snow to this animal and I assume they were yours! Why did you leave it? Why didn't you drag it to your vehicle and take it home? Instead, you left it for me to dispose of!
This incident has been communicated to the Kosciusko County Sheriff's Department and the DNR. The DNR commented that pointing a weapon toward my home or property is considered criminal recklessness, and charges can be filed against you.
This incident has concerned me and the safety of my family. My family and I are outside quite often, especially my kids. Do you know the difference between children and deer? I pray to God you do!
In summary, I'm not against hunting, just those individuals who are incapable of being responsible for their actions. If I sound upset, you bet! You endangered my family and my home.
Jeff Clay
Warsaw
Sports Discrimination
Editor, Times-Union:Schools are discriminating against the students who don't participate in sports. Over the last couple of years I've been hearing on the news that athletes that participate in sports are random drug tested and if drugs are found in their system when tested they are suspended for so long before they can participate in sports again. This is fine, but what about kids that have drug problems that don't go out for sports? For me what's good for the athletes is good for all students, especially nowadays, because of the drug situation. I know to be in a sports program is a privilege, but I think my tax dollars for schools should be equal to all students, not just athletes when it concerns drugs in school. Let's face it, schools are usually where the drugs start. There are students that are users, pushers and addicted to drugs and this is happening because nobody cares about them, just the athletes. You always hear "kids say no to drugs," but it seems to me that our schools are saying "athletes say no to drugs" and who cares about the rest of the students. Personally I would like to see all kids drug free, so come on, people running our schools and the government know-it-alls, let's not discriminate against kids who don't go out for sports and maybe it will take a big bite out of the drug scene in our schools and later on in life.
Arden Grow
Claypool
Veterans Ceremony
Editor, Times-Union:John C. Peterson Post 49, The American Legion, in conjunction with James Sittler VFW Post 1126 and Michael O'Connell AM VETS Post 43, presents a Veterans Day ceremony at the Kosciusko County War Memorial every year on Veterans Day beginning at 10:55 a.m. The ceremony lasts approximately 45 minutes.
I would like to extend a heart-felt thanks to Mr. Becker and the Warsaw High School band for their fine performance, 2nd District Commander Gary Danekas for his excellent speech and the combined color guards of the American Legion, VFW and AM VETS for their participation in honoring our veterans on this solemn day.
Also, I would like to thank the 85 spectators that took time out of their lives to show their respect for our veterans. As for the rest of you in the community that had the time and chose not to use it in support of our veterans, shame on you!
Michael R. Davis
Adjutant Post 49
Warsaw
Gun Control
Editor, Times-Union:Thank you for your editorial on gun control. Only the armed citizen can be secure in his person, his freedom and his property. The Lord Jesus Christ endorsed and urged the bearing of arms to his disciples. I quote Gospel of Luke chapter 22 "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
Richard Ellison
Warsaw
Honest People
Editor, Times-Union:Years ago while Leonard and I were on a vacation out west, we were in Arizona and stopped at a mall and went into a jewelry store, where I bought Leonard a large beautiful Indiana silver bracelet with coral and turquoise stones in it and put a large watch in it and got a matching ring. When he passed away before the casket was closed, something told me to take the jewelry off, so I did and it laid in a drawer for years when I decided to wear the watch and I loved it. The other week I went down to the Marsh Supermarket. While there I decided to get my blood pressure taken, so I took the watch off and my jacket off so I could get my arm in the blood pressure sleeve. When I finished I put my jacket on and forgot my watch and left it lay. I ran the rest of my errands, which took several hours. When I pulled into my garage I wanted to check the time on my watch, so I could rake some leaves and discovered I forgot to pick up my watch. So I rushed right back to Marsh and I prayed that my watch would be there, if not I would check at the adjoining pharmacy. The watch wasn't there, so I went to the pharmacy and the lady pharmacist handed me my watch stating a lady from Claypool was getting her prescription filled and her husband went over to get his blood pressure taken and found my watch and turned it in to the pharmacist. The pharmacist gave me the telephone number, so I called the wife to thank her husband, Roger Gall. This made me very happy to get my watch back, so there are some honest people around. Thanks again, Roger Gall, in making me very happy.
Kathern Wolford
Warsaw
Discrimination
Editor, Times-Union:As I read for a second time, I grimaced as the news of the case of Ron Greer sunk in. Until I received a letter from Ron Greer asking for help, I knew nothing of the horror he and his family continue to endure because of his crime.
Ron Greer's "crime" was committed in the firehouse of Madison, Wisconsin. Ron is a firefighter. He is also a pastor with the Trinity Evangelical Fellowship, a local church. And what of his offense? Mr. Greer passed out tracts explaining the Christian faith through Scripture, citing the scriptural stand against homosexuality.
If his story is not a trail of tears since that time, it is certainly a trail of horror. When news of his offense reached the fire chief, she suspended him for two months. While it is reported that pornographic magazines and publications promoting a gay lifestyle circulated, obviously his Christian tracts offended the department's sensibilities.
This was just the beginning of his trauma. Afterward, his house was vandalized with vulgar and obscene drawings and references. Slogans such as "Welcome to Fag City, USA" were nailed to his front porch. During an evening gathering of his church fellowship, hundreds of gay activists overran the service and shouted obscenities. Activists urinated on restroom floors. Police were called and, when they arrived, they refused to interfere.
Welcome to the seamy side of America, once the land of the free and the home of the brave. Ron is now in court trying to win his right to maintain a job with the fire department. Had this happened thirty years ago during the American civil rights era, would we not have national outrage over just this kind of discrimination (Ron happens to be an African-American) and lawlessness committed against a person exercising his rights to free speech?
Ron Greer's cause is our cause. Freedom to express Christian viewpoints is not any longer correct politically in some circles. The trouble is that the circle is growing larger all the time. Christians in America will understand even more what it means to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute them. As Ron Greer can tell us painfully, we never know who will be next to suffer the consequences of maintaining a Christian witness.
Richard Ellsworth
Winona Lake
Make Love, Not War
Editor, Times-Union:Many ask, "What should the USA do about Iraq? Jesus told us, "Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you...!" Who can offer better advice than Jesus? Peace, brother!
Who appointed the U.S. as policeman for the world? U.S. foreign policy seems to be a bumbling, uninspired expansionist policy by the U.S. government (including the CIA, FBI, ATFA, etc.) - industrial - military complex, and has a long history of failure.
Consider: Cuba where the U.S. helped dictator Fidel Castro to power, Haiti where the U.S. deposed a dictator then installed a puppet president, Panama where the U.S. gave our canal to a dictator, then imprisoned him for drug trafficking, or South Africa where the U.S. government undermined the legal government and then installed Nelson Mandela, a convict, who is now in bed with Libya dictator Moammar Gadhafi (a sworn enemy to the USA).
The U.S. has rescued France with two major wars. The bodies of thousands of U.S. GIs lay moldering in French graves. But France is a maverick nation and does not support the world view on stopping nuclear bomb testing and does not support U.S. government foreign policy.
Okinawa greatly resents the U.S. military occupation of their country 52 years after the end of that war. And why does the U.S. have a standing army in Germany 52 years after that war? It has been 44 years since the Korean War and the U.S. military is still there.
And the present U.S. policy has not kept 'weapons of mass destruction' out of North Korea, India, China, etc. etc...
The various nations of Africa, Vietnam, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Israel, Pakistan, etc, etc...all places we should keep our U.S. military noses out of.
Madeleine Albright, U.S. secretary of state (born in Poland), won't agree because of her pet project to expand U.S. military presence into Poland, but with the cold war over, NATO should be disbanded and the U.S. military presence brought back to this side of the ocean.
The U.S. government has distributed propaganda for years trying to teach us that we should be afraid of other nations and peoples that don't conduct their affairs as the U.S. government dictates, so as to justify a continuing, aggressive worldwide military presence.
In contrast, godly people that do what is right have no need to fear. Peace, sister!
I admit I'm becoming leery of the U.S. government! Consider Ruby Ridge, where the U.S. government entrapped, then persecuted the Weavers; Waco where the U.S. government conducted a major, armed commando raid, like thieves at night over the roofs and into the bedroom windows of private citizens, to deliver a summons, instead of knocking on the front door in daylight like honest men; a U.S. government that dumped hazardous materials from airplanes over its loyal, innocent civilian citizens at Fort Wayne, Indiana, in the 1940s, so as to test the results on humans; a U.S. government that seals records for 50 years (or more) so that us citizens won't know the dastardly deeds being done, and they won't have to answer to We The People.
I say again, bring all U.S. military to this side of the oceans. And then greatly downsize the U.S. government and the military. Let's try it Jesus' way. Make love, not war!
Buck Young
Korean War Veteran
Warsaw
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- Eisenhower Food Drive - Veteran's Day - Legion Thanks - Gun Safety - Irresponsible Hunter - Sports Discrimination - Veterans Ceremony - Gun Control - Honest People - Discrimination - Make Love, Not War
Eisenhower Food Drive
Editor, Times-Union:CCS' food cupboard was quite bare
And asked the community, "Please share."
The Eisenhower Eagles heard the cry
And responded, "Sure we'll try!"
We want to help those who are in need
So we started to collect with great speed.
The Eisenhower Eagles flew with their wings spread wide
And completed a very successful food drive.
Through the neighborhood they did soar
Collecting, collecting and collecting more
The total, three thousand six hundred and twenty-eight
Items went over the CCS truck tailgate.
The Eisenhower Eagles flew with their wings spread wide
And to those Eagles I can say with pride
Our Community Spirit is truly alive.
Thank you, Eagles
Pat Phillips
Student Council Sponsor
Veteran's Day
Editor, Times-Union:Veterans Day came and went, but no one at Times-Union acknowledged it! Why, I ask?
My husband took a copy of the Veterans Day program to you on Thursday before so it could be printed in Monday's paper. But I guess it was lost on the way to the press.
No "Red, White or Blue" on front page, either. The Leesburg School remembers the veterans. If you get a chance, come down to the American Legion and see their posters.
You tell the veterans that are no longer on this earth or are disabled some way that they are not important to you. I don't think you would like the answer they give you.
I like the freedom of speech I have, because a veteran fought for it, and then to treat him this way.
Old Glory is a beautiful flag and in my book - "God, Old Glory and Veterans" is at the top of the list.
Nondus Creakbaum
American Legion Auxiliary Member
Legion Thanks
Editor, Times-Union:The American Legion Post 49 would like to express their thanks to everybody who helped with the Veterans Day ceremony. Thanks to our speaker, the band, our chaplain and all the other helping hands.
A special thank-you to the ladies for the wonderful food served at the post after the ceremony.
Abe Wertenberger
Vice Commander
Post #49
Warsaw
Gun Safety
Editor, Times-Union:The latest shooting incident will be one more digit to be used as fodder to feed the anti-gun morons. According to the paper the sheriff's office already blames the gun's manufacturer. Notice that nothing is made mention of the apparent negligence of the shooter who had the muzzle pointed in an unsafe direction!
Allen Regenos
Claypool
Irresponsible Hunter
Editor, Times-Union:During the morning of Nov. 19, someone shot and killed a deer on my property within 60 feet of my home.
To the hunter who killed this animal, this deer was on my property! You fired your weapon toward my home! You left this animal in my back yard for me to clean up and remove!
First of all, that animal was feeding in my yard. You do not have the right to hunt on my property without my permission.
Second, you pointed your weapon toward my home and my family. I have a wife and two children who I love very much. I don't appreciate the danger you created in pointing your gun at my house.
For the hunters who are saying right now this deer was shot elsewhere and walked on my property, Bull! This animal was hit just above the left front leg and exited above the right front leg. The hole size on the right side was the size of a baseball. Its left front leg was broke and there is no way this animal walked to where it died.
Third, you left this dead animal in my yard. You shot it! There were footprints in the snow to this animal and I assume they were yours! Why did you leave it? Why didn't you drag it to your vehicle and take it home? Instead, you left it for me to dispose of!
This incident has been communicated to the Kosciusko County Sheriff's Department and the DNR. The DNR commented that pointing a weapon toward my home or property is considered criminal recklessness, and charges can be filed against you.
This incident has concerned me and the safety of my family. My family and I are outside quite often, especially my kids. Do you know the difference between children and deer? I pray to God you do!
In summary, I'm not against hunting, just those individuals who are incapable of being responsible for their actions. If I sound upset, you bet! You endangered my family and my home.
Jeff Clay
Warsaw
Sports Discrimination
Editor, Times-Union:Schools are discriminating against the students who don't participate in sports. Over the last couple of years I've been hearing on the news that athletes that participate in sports are random drug tested and if drugs are found in their system when tested they are suspended for so long before they can participate in sports again. This is fine, but what about kids that have drug problems that don't go out for sports? For me what's good for the athletes is good for all students, especially nowadays, because of the drug situation. I know to be in a sports program is a privilege, but I think my tax dollars for schools should be equal to all students, not just athletes when it concerns drugs in school. Let's face it, schools are usually where the drugs start. There are students that are users, pushers and addicted to drugs and this is happening because nobody cares about them, just the athletes. You always hear "kids say no to drugs," but it seems to me that our schools are saying "athletes say no to drugs" and who cares about the rest of the students. Personally I would like to see all kids drug free, so come on, people running our schools and the government know-it-alls, let's not discriminate against kids who don't go out for sports and maybe it will take a big bite out of the drug scene in our schools and later on in life.
Arden Grow
Claypool
Veterans Ceremony
Editor, Times-Union:John C. Peterson Post 49, The American Legion, in conjunction with James Sittler VFW Post 1126 and Michael O'Connell AM VETS Post 43, presents a Veterans Day ceremony at the Kosciusko County War Memorial every year on Veterans Day beginning at 10:55 a.m. The ceremony lasts approximately 45 minutes.
I would like to extend a heart-felt thanks to Mr. Becker and the Warsaw High School band for their fine performance, 2nd District Commander Gary Danekas for his excellent speech and the combined color guards of the American Legion, VFW and AM VETS for their participation in honoring our veterans on this solemn day.
Also, I would like to thank the 85 spectators that took time out of their lives to show their respect for our veterans. As for the rest of you in the community that had the time and chose not to use it in support of our veterans, shame on you!
Michael R. Davis
Adjutant Post 49
Warsaw
Gun Control
Editor, Times-Union:Thank you for your editorial on gun control. Only the armed citizen can be secure in his person, his freedom and his property. The Lord Jesus Christ endorsed and urged the bearing of arms to his disciples. I quote Gospel of Luke chapter 22 "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
Richard Ellison
Warsaw
Honest People
Editor, Times-Union:Years ago while Leonard and I were on a vacation out west, we were in Arizona and stopped at a mall and went into a jewelry store, where I bought Leonard a large beautiful Indiana silver bracelet with coral and turquoise stones in it and put a large watch in it and got a matching ring. When he passed away before the casket was closed, something told me to take the jewelry off, so I did and it laid in a drawer for years when I decided to wear the watch and I loved it. The other week I went down to the Marsh Supermarket. While there I decided to get my blood pressure taken, so I took the watch off and my jacket off so I could get my arm in the blood pressure sleeve. When I finished I put my jacket on and forgot my watch and left it lay. I ran the rest of my errands, which took several hours. When I pulled into my garage I wanted to check the time on my watch, so I could rake some leaves and discovered I forgot to pick up my watch. So I rushed right back to Marsh and I prayed that my watch would be there, if not I would check at the adjoining pharmacy. The watch wasn't there, so I went to the pharmacy and the lady pharmacist handed me my watch stating a lady from Claypool was getting her prescription filled and her husband went over to get his blood pressure taken and found my watch and turned it in to the pharmacist. The pharmacist gave me the telephone number, so I called the wife to thank her husband, Roger Gall. This made me very happy to get my watch back, so there are some honest people around. Thanks again, Roger Gall, in making me very happy.
Kathern Wolford
Warsaw
Discrimination
Editor, Times-Union:As I read for a second time, I grimaced as the news of the case of Ron Greer sunk in. Until I received a letter from Ron Greer asking for help, I knew nothing of the horror he and his family continue to endure because of his crime.
Ron Greer's "crime" was committed in the firehouse of Madison, Wisconsin. Ron is a firefighter. He is also a pastor with the Trinity Evangelical Fellowship, a local church. And what of his offense? Mr. Greer passed out tracts explaining the Christian faith through Scripture, citing the scriptural stand against homosexuality.
If his story is not a trail of tears since that time, it is certainly a trail of horror. When news of his offense reached the fire chief, she suspended him for two months. While it is reported that pornographic magazines and publications promoting a gay lifestyle circulated, obviously his Christian tracts offended the department's sensibilities.
This was just the beginning of his trauma. Afterward, his house was vandalized with vulgar and obscene drawings and references. Slogans such as "Welcome to Fag City, USA" were nailed to his front porch. During an evening gathering of his church fellowship, hundreds of gay activists overran the service and shouted obscenities. Activists urinated on restroom floors. Police were called and, when they arrived, they refused to interfere.
Welcome to the seamy side of America, once the land of the free and the home of the brave. Ron is now in court trying to win his right to maintain a job with the fire department. Had this happened thirty years ago during the American civil rights era, would we not have national outrage over just this kind of discrimination (Ron happens to be an African-American) and lawlessness committed against a person exercising his rights to free speech?
Ron Greer's cause is our cause. Freedom to express Christian viewpoints is not any longer correct politically in some circles. The trouble is that the circle is growing larger all the time. Christians in America will understand even more what it means to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute them. As Ron Greer can tell us painfully, we never know who will be next to suffer the consequences of maintaining a Christian witness.
Richard Ellsworth
Winona Lake
Make Love, Not War
Editor, Times-Union:Many ask, "What should the USA do about Iraq? Jesus told us, "Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you...!" Who can offer better advice than Jesus? Peace, brother!
Who appointed the U.S. as policeman for the world? U.S. foreign policy seems to be a bumbling, uninspired expansionist policy by the U.S. government (including the CIA, FBI, ATFA, etc.) - industrial - military complex, and has a long history of failure.
Consider: Cuba where the U.S. helped dictator Fidel Castro to power, Haiti where the U.S. deposed a dictator then installed a puppet president, Panama where the U.S. gave our canal to a dictator, then imprisoned him for drug trafficking, or South Africa where the U.S. government undermined the legal government and then installed Nelson Mandela, a convict, who is now in bed with Libya dictator Moammar Gadhafi (a sworn enemy to the USA).
The U.S. has rescued France with two major wars. The bodies of thousands of U.S. GIs lay moldering in French graves. But France is a maverick nation and does not support the world view on stopping nuclear bomb testing and does not support U.S. government foreign policy.
Okinawa greatly resents the U.S. military occupation of their country 52 years after the end of that war. And why does the U.S. have a standing army in Germany 52 years after that war? It has been 44 years since the Korean War and the U.S. military is still there.
And the present U.S. policy has not kept 'weapons of mass destruction' out of North Korea, India, China, etc. etc...
The various nations of Africa, Vietnam, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Israel, Pakistan, etc, etc...all places we should keep our U.S. military noses out of.
Madeleine Albright, U.S. secretary of state (born in Poland), won't agree because of her pet project to expand U.S. military presence into Poland, but with the cold war over, NATO should be disbanded and the U.S. military presence brought back to this side of the ocean.
The U.S. government has distributed propaganda for years trying to teach us that we should be afraid of other nations and peoples that don't conduct their affairs as the U.S. government dictates, so as to justify a continuing, aggressive worldwide military presence.
In contrast, godly people that do what is right have no need to fear. Peace, sister!
I admit I'm becoming leery of the U.S. government! Consider Ruby Ridge, where the U.S. government entrapped, then persecuted the Weavers; Waco where the U.S. government conducted a major, armed commando raid, like thieves at night over the roofs and into the bedroom windows of private citizens, to deliver a summons, instead of knocking on the front door in daylight like honest men; a U.S. government that dumped hazardous materials from airplanes over its loyal, innocent civilian citizens at Fort Wayne, Indiana, in the 1940s, so as to test the results on humans; a U.S. government that seals records for 50 years (or more) so that us citizens won't know the dastardly deeds being done, and they won't have to answer to We The People.
I say again, bring all U.S. military to this side of the oceans. And then greatly downsize the U.S. government and the military. Let's try it Jesus' way. Make love, not war!
Buck Young
Korean War Veteran
Warsaw
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