Letters to the Editor 10-09-2001
July 28, 2016 at 4:25 p.m.
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- Never Give Up - Disgusting Letter - Local People Need Help, Too - Replace The Flags - News Tells Too Much - Trade In Mike Harden - Gas Prices - Amazing Photograph - No Gold Stars - Ireland Grieves
Never Give Up
Editor, Times-Union:For the families of the fallen and the nation that mourns with them:
Since the atrocity of 9-11 many emotions have come and gone. I have felt shock and fear, sorrow and rage, trepidation and hatred. I am left with one feeling that will never leave. That feeling is pride, unyielding and unending. Never have I felt so blessed to be a citizen of the greatest nation the world will ever know. I feel that I am blessed to be alive during our nation's greatest hour. I watched, as did all of you, as the most horrific pictures I have ever seen come flashing over the television. Those airplanes cut into the steel and concrete of our greatest buildings and straight through the myth of our invincibility. I watched the unthinkable unfold when those two great structures fell from the sky.
However, I have also kept my eyes open these weeks after the atrocity of 9-11. I have watched our country awaken. I watched as corporate America poured out millions of dollars of support in every form possible. I watched as millions of Americans fell to their knees in prayer for the souls of those lost and for the future of our country.
I believe that all those who died in the attack did so saving this United States of America (and the Republic for which it stands). This country is greater now then we have ever been, at least in my lifetime. Since the horrific day of Sept. 11th I have not seen a car horn beat in anger. I have not seen a passenger upset with an airline employee. I have not seen politicians squabble of party lines. I have, for the most part, not seen the media attempting to take advantage of disaster to further television ratings or boost readership. I have seen unity. I have seen pride. I have seen tears. I have seen warm embraces between people who may have never met. I have seen warm smiles. I have seen love. I have seen our citizens willing to give of their own comfort in order to comfort others. I have seen America the way it has always meant to be seen. We found something that was forgotten, and we paid a very dear price to find that.
Though we will never forget the pain of a bright September day suddenly turned dark, we move on. Flags again fly atop their poles and America stands tall once more. Our colors, shown now brighter then ever, remind us of the foundation of this great nation. We are reminded of our roots. This country founded on unity and pride was once more reminded that freedom comes with a price. For the first time my generation has learned how dear that price can be. Yet, we will not be dissuaded. We will not be turned away by fear. Those who did this can be sure that they underestimated the resolve of the most powerful people on the face of the Earth. We will return to work. We will continue to go on vacation with our families and to fly the nation's airlines. We will keep the Earth's greatest economy on its feet. We will never give up and we will never be beaten!
Tyler Silveus
Warsaw
via e-mail
Disgusting Letter
Editor, Times-Union:I regret that this letter is being submitted so late. I wish I had seen the letter written by George W. Deeter, Sept. 24, earlier than now.
It is rare that I allow myself to be displaced by ignorance, but after reading such an ignorant, disgusting letter I feel as though I should physically vomit.
The events that took place on Sept. 11 were terrible beyond description by the highest of vocabularies. I, as an American, was uplifted, however, by the amount of intelligence, camaraderie and support encountered not only within our country but also within the national community. We will survive this. We will win the battle against terrorism and hatred and we will flourish in the aftermath of the abolishment of hateful societal extremities. However, to feel that part of any solution is to revert to barbaric ignorance and quasi-Nazi political standards not only sickens me as an Egyptian, but sickens me more so as a patriotic American who loves her country and the freedom it stands for.
Mr. Deeter is right. If you tag people like animals and round them up like criminals in a camp, it will be easier to "keep an eye on us." In fact, perhaps we should tag and cage all of humanity. Maybe we should label every man, woman and child because of the color of their skin, the name of their god or the country of their ancestry. Perhaps this would make the sheltered uneducated few feel safer and better about themselves. If we can hate freely, then we won't have to worry about such complex concepts as "love," "peace," "unity" and "brotherhood."
Of course the price of this un-dignifying of human beings based on over-generalized stereotypes following atrocities or fears or personal complexes would be the abolishment of the "America" we are all fighting so hard to preserve.
I suggest that before anyone starts printing out the ID cards and recording our DNA, they make an attempt to educate themselves both on the issue and in history. Bias, demented segregation of a people does not bring about solutions, peace or even that sense of security that we are all looking for. It brings separation, hatred, further evil and apologies doled out far too late.
I am very much proud to be American. However in the name of all that America stands for, I shall not be forced to be embarrassed or singled out due to my heritage. We understand that it is a nervous time for our country and most Middle Eastern-Americans welcome an extra question or a longer line at an airport to secure our country's freedoms and interests. We understand that the terrorist organizations now in question base their headquarters only within the Middle East. But keep in mind that there are irrational extremists of every faith and every color. Do not respond with ignorance. It only hinders the progress of resolution.
Maha H.M. Ibrahim
Egyptian-American Citizen, Human Being
Warsaw
Local People Need Help, Too
Editor, Times-Union:The last several weeks have brought an outpouring of prayers and financial support for all the victims of the attack on the United States, which is a tribute to the people of this nation. I am encouraged especially by the increase in public prayer - the silent majority is finding their voice!
I ask all of you very generous people to please remember those less fortunate here locally. As the support has headed east there has been a decrease in support seen by the local agencies. It is very important that they are not forgotten. As the cold weather comes upon us there will still be those in need of food, clothing and shelter and those who need the services of other agencies that rely on your support. Please continue to support those out east as you can but not instead of those who need your help locally.
May God answer our prayers of peace and justice for this world.
Ida List
Leesburg
via e-mail
Replace The Flags
Editor, Times-Union:With the recent actions taken against our country, patriotism is running very high. It makes me real proud to see all the flags flying high in the breeze as I travel around. Knowing how hard it is at this time to be able to purchase new flags, I can overlook the conditions of some of these faded, torn and tattered flags flying out there. As replacements become available, I want to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the American Legion and other veteran organizations will be glad to accept these worn out flags and give them the proper disposal.
Norman Hubler
Past Commander
American Legion Post 49
News Tells Too Much
Editor, Times-Union:Why do they tell on the news what we are going to do to the people who attacked us? If they are watching the news, they will just make a better plan than us.
Sarah B. King
Age 10
Tippecanoe
Trade In Mike Harden
Editor, Times-Union:There must have been quite a scramble to find something to print in last Tuesday's Times-Union. For lack of something helpful, Mike Harden's outrageous article: "We Could Trade Jerry Falwell For bin Laden," was printed. Mike Harden joins the liberal media agenda with unrestrained passion against Jerry Falwell. What a way to unite America! When Rome burned, Nero blamed it on the Christians. Harden, taking occasion of the WTC disaster, compares Falwell to bin Laden. To compare Liberty University with bin Laden's training camps and hideouts probably doesn't sit too well with LU's 6,000 fine young American students. Please, Times-Union! Couldn't you trade off Mike Harden for someone with a sense of discernment and civility?
Fred Plastow
Warsaw
via e-mail
Gas Prices
Editor, Times-Union:After reading in Tuesday's "USA Today" of the 15 percent decrease in wholesale gas prices globally, the article goes on to say that by Columbus Day the price may fall to $1 per gallon. How did Warsaw's gasoline distributors react?
As of Friday morning $1.25-9/10, the lowest price in Warsaw, is at a brand name station (the number 66 is in their name), not any of the so-called discount gas stores. All of their prices are 2-3 cents higher. Does anyone know why the brand name store is lower than the discount stores? The answer is, this store is supplied by a gasoline distributor from the Mishawaka and South Bend area, not the Warsaw area distributors. What is wrong with this picture: How dumb do the distributors think the people are?
I will tell you why Warsaw's gas prices are always 7 to 10 cents a gallon higher than other cities. Example: at the Clark Store in New Paris the price is $1.19-9/10 as of Thursday night.
Warsaw has had a retail gasoline marketing association since 1978-79, long before the convenience stores became popular. I managed one of two gas stations called Colonial Oil Co., from 1978 to 1980, in Warsaw. I was invited to join this association by one of the distributors who helped start it. I explained to this person that the people who own the stations were from Fort Wayne. They set the prices, not the local managers.
This distributor's employee would stop in and tell me every time the price was going up. He would ask me to raise our prices so we would only be one penny lower than the brand name stations' prices. I told him that I would call in the price increase when I see it on their signs. The office would tell me to raise the price or not raise the price. This usually resulted in the price being from 7 to 10 cents lower than the brand names' prices for one or two days, then the office (in Fort Wayne) would tell me to raise the price. Colonial Oil's prices would then be 3 to 5 cents per gallon lower than the brand names.
As long as there are no true discount stores in Warsaw that do not follow the local distributors who charge whatever they want, you will always pay more for gas in Warsaw.
Stephen R. Kuhn
Warsaw
Amazing Photograph
Editor, Times-Union:We were amazed to see how Gary Nieter photographed so many flags in our county and assembled them to make our flag come alive.
This masterpiece shows that we all love the flag which represents our country. Our sincere appreciation!
Harold and Mary Derry
Warsaw
No Gold Stars
Editor, Times-Union:Good luck to our men in Afghanistan in their attempt to rout out bin Laden and the al-Qaida organization. Let's hope that our military forces in Afghanistan are fortunate enough to be able to take care of old Osama and the Taliban before they gain another opportunity to bomb and destroy more innocent lives here in America and perhaps throughout the universe.
When it comes to deciding which is worse, World War II or today's conflict, I'd say that the "war" we are affiliated with at the present time is worse. During World War II, whenever we won the battle, we knew that the battle was won. We knew exactly who we were fighting, the Nazis or the Japs, and we knew just about where they were hanging out and they certainly were not hanging out here in these United States. That is, there was no destruction, no battles fought here on our land or unseen enemies lurking about. And now, despite what success we may attain in Afghanistan, when we attempt to weed out the enemy, how can we be certain that we can capture all of bin Laden's accomplices and cohorts? How are we going to know but what there might still be more secret terrorists in this country, lying in wait just around the corner - terrorists in disguises who are all too ready and willing to hijack another plane and wreak more havoc and destruction on our beloved America, " ... the land of the free, and the home of the brave?"
During World War II, patriotism reigned as it does today. Many front windows in American homes were embellished with bright, vivid stars; blue stars to represent the servicemen who were alive and fighting valiantly for their country and there were gold stars to signify that great numbers of soldiers, sailors and marines gave their lives in defense of "America The Beautiful."
Let's hope that very few gold stars show up in the windows of our good citizens this time around.
Don Kaiser
Warsaw
Ireland Grieves
Editor, Times-Union:The recent letter in the paper from the man in Germany to a couple here in Warsaw has prompted me to write this letter. It has made me realize that although there has been much on TV about the people of Palestine celebrating in the streets and the reactions of those who will not turn over bin Laden, how many people really know the extent to which the rest of the world has grieved over this tragedy?
There was a group of 11 of us who left Warsaw for Ireland on Sept. 7. We joined a much larger group of people at O'Hare Airport in Chicago and boarded a charter flight for Ireland. The first three days our tour bus driver had made several comments about what good friends Ireland and the U.S. are. How Ireland doesn't have to worry about bigger countries picking on them because they have the greatest armed services in the world - the United States Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps. The U.S. was the first country to recognize Ireland as an independent nation when they gained their freedom from England.
On the day of the terrorist attacks we heard about them about an hour after they happened. We were at a quay waiting for a ferry when one of the Irish men there heard it on the radio. He walked over to a nearby car, turned the radio up as loud as it would go and opened the doors so that we might gather around and hear the news.
On Friday we were to have a tour of Dublin, which the tour company did their best at considering everything was closed. As we approached the American Embassy where we were to get out so we could walk around and take pictures, our bus driver said, "I don't know what is going on up here but there are a lot of people and police. I don't know if I'll be able to let you down or not. The police may make me keep going." When we got closer we could see flowers piled around the fence of the Embassy. There was a sign announcing that there were cards of condolence there that could be signed and would be sent to America. The line of people was unbelievable. The bus driver kept saying that he couldn't believe all the people. That there had been a little of this when Lady Di died, but nothing like this!
While some people have asked if I was scared being there at that time, I would have to answer definitely not! I, in fact, felt protected and safe among the Irish people. The sympathy and understanding they showed us was unbelievable. They were very considerate of us and I felt bent over backwards for us.
"OUT OF THE DEEPEST SYMPATHY AND RESPECT FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE TRAGEDY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THIS STORE WILL BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY 14TH SEPTEMBER. (OUR HEARTS ARE WITH YOU)
Laura Utter
Warsaw
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- Never Give Up - Disgusting Letter - Local People Need Help, Too - Replace The Flags - News Tells Too Much - Trade In Mike Harden - Gas Prices - Amazing Photograph - No Gold Stars - Ireland Grieves
Never Give Up
Editor, Times-Union:For the families of the fallen and the nation that mourns with them:
Since the atrocity of 9-11 many emotions have come and gone. I have felt shock and fear, sorrow and rage, trepidation and hatred. I am left with one feeling that will never leave. That feeling is pride, unyielding and unending. Never have I felt so blessed to be a citizen of the greatest nation the world will ever know. I feel that I am blessed to be alive during our nation's greatest hour. I watched, as did all of you, as the most horrific pictures I have ever seen come flashing over the television. Those airplanes cut into the steel and concrete of our greatest buildings and straight through the myth of our invincibility. I watched the unthinkable unfold when those two great structures fell from the sky.
However, I have also kept my eyes open these weeks after the atrocity of 9-11. I have watched our country awaken. I watched as corporate America poured out millions of dollars of support in every form possible. I watched as millions of Americans fell to their knees in prayer for the souls of those lost and for the future of our country.
I believe that all those who died in the attack did so saving this United States of America (and the Republic for which it stands). This country is greater now then we have ever been, at least in my lifetime. Since the horrific day of Sept. 11th I have not seen a car horn beat in anger. I have not seen a passenger upset with an airline employee. I have not seen politicians squabble of party lines. I have, for the most part, not seen the media attempting to take advantage of disaster to further television ratings or boost readership. I have seen unity. I have seen pride. I have seen tears. I have seen warm embraces between people who may have never met. I have seen warm smiles. I have seen love. I have seen our citizens willing to give of their own comfort in order to comfort others. I have seen America the way it has always meant to be seen. We found something that was forgotten, and we paid a very dear price to find that.
Though we will never forget the pain of a bright September day suddenly turned dark, we move on. Flags again fly atop their poles and America stands tall once more. Our colors, shown now brighter then ever, remind us of the foundation of this great nation. We are reminded of our roots. This country founded on unity and pride was once more reminded that freedom comes with a price. For the first time my generation has learned how dear that price can be. Yet, we will not be dissuaded. We will not be turned away by fear. Those who did this can be sure that they underestimated the resolve of the most powerful people on the face of the Earth. We will return to work. We will continue to go on vacation with our families and to fly the nation's airlines. We will keep the Earth's greatest economy on its feet. We will never give up and we will never be beaten!
Tyler Silveus
Warsaw
via e-mail
Disgusting Letter
Editor, Times-Union:I regret that this letter is being submitted so late. I wish I had seen the letter written by George W. Deeter, Sept. 24, earlier than now.
It is rare that I allow myself to be displaced by ignorance, but after reading such an ignorant, disgusting letter I feel as though I should physically vomit.
The events that took place on Sept. 11 were terrible beyond description by the highest of vocabularies. I, as an American, was uplifted, however, by the amount of intelligence, camaraderie and support encountered not only within our country but also within the national community. We will survive this. We will win the battle against terrorism and hatred and we will flourish in the aftermath of the abolishment of hateful societal extremities. However, to feel that part of any solution is to revert to barbaric ignorance and quasi-Nazi political standards not only sickens me as an Egyptian, but sickens me more so as a patriotic American who loves her country and the freedom it stands for.
Mr. Deeter is right. If you tag people like animals and round them up like criminals in a camp, it will be easier to "keep an eye on us." In fact, perhaps we should tag and cage all of humanity. Maybe we should label every man, woman and child because of the color of their skin, the name of their god or the country of their ancestry. Perhaps this would make the sheltered uneducated few feel safer and better about themselves. If we can hate freely, then we won't have to worry about such complex concepts as "love," "peace," "unity" and "brotherhood."
Of course the price of this un-dignifying of human beings based on over-generalized stereotypes following atrocities or fears or personal complexes would be the abolishment of the "America" we are all fighting so hard to preserve.
I suggest that before anyone starts printing out the ID cards and recording our DNA, they make an attempt to educate themselves both on the issue and in history. Bias, demented segregation of a people does not bring about solutions, peace or even that sense of security that we are all looking for. It brings separation, hatred, further evil and apologies doled out far too late.
I am very much proud to be American. However in the name of all that America stands for, I shall not be forced to be embarrassed or singled out due to my heritage. We understand that it is a nervous time for our country and most Middle Eastern-Americans welcome an extra question or a longer line at an airport to secure our country's freedoms and interests. We understand that the terrorist organizations now in question base their headquarters only within the Middle East. But keep in mind that there are irrational extremists of every faith and every color. Do not respond with ignorance. It only hinders the progress of resolution.
Maha H.M. Ibrahim
Egyptian-American Citizen, Human Being
Warsaw
Local People Need Help, Too
Editor, Times-Union:The last several weeks have brought an outpouring of prayers and financial support for all the victims of the attack on the United States, which is a tribute to the people of this nation. I am encouraged especially by the increase in public prayer - the silent majority is finding their voice!
I ask all of you very generous people to please remember those less fortunate here locally. As the support has headed east there has been a decrease in support seen by the local agencies. It is very important that they are not forgotten. As the cold weather comes upon us there will still be those in need of food, clothing and shelter and those who need the services of other agencies that rely on your support. Please continue to support those out east as you can but not instead of those who need your help locally.
May God answer our prayers of peace and justice for this world.
Ida List
Leesburg
via e-mail
Replace The Flags
Editor, Times-Union:With the recent actions taken against our country, patriotism is running very high. It makes me real proud to see all the flags flying high in the breeze as I travel around. Knowing how hard it is at this time to be able to purchase new flags, I can overlook the conditions of some of these faded, torn and tattered flags flying out there. As replacements become available, I want to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the American Legion and other veteran organizations will be glad to accept these worn out flags and give them the proper disposal.
Norman Hubler
Past Commander
American Legion Post 49
News Tells Too Much
Editor, Times-Union:Why do they tell on the news what we are going to do to the people who attacked us? If they are watching the news, they will just make a better plan than us.
Sarah B. King
Age 10
Tippecanoe
Trade In Mike Harden
Editor, Times-Union:There must have been quite a scramble to find something to print in last Tuesday's Times-Union. For lack of something helpful, Mike Harden's outrageous article: "We Could Trade Jerry Falwell For bin Laden," was printed. Mike Harden joins the liberal media agenda with unrestrained passion against Jerry Falwell. What a way to unite America! When Rome burned, Nero blamed it on the Christians. Harden, taking occasion of the WTC disaster, compares Falwell to bin Laden. To compare Liberty University with bin Laden's training camps and hideouts probably doesn't sit too well with LU's 6,000 fine young American students. Please, Times-Union! Couldn't you trade off Mike Harden for someone with a sense of discernment and civility?
Fred Plastow
Warsaw
via e-mail
Gas Prices
Editor, Times-Union:After reading in Tuesday's "USA Today" of the 15 percent decrease in wholesale gas prices globally, the article goes on to say that by Columbus Day the price may fall to $1 per gallon. How did Warsaw's gasoline distributors react?
As of Friday morning $1.25-9/10, the lowest price in Warsaw, is at a brand name station (the number 66 is in their name), not any of the so-called discount gas stores. All of their prices are 2-3 cents higher. Does anyone know why the brand name store is lower than the discount stores? The answer is, this store is supplied by a gasoline distributor from the Mishawaka and South Bend area, not the Warsaw area distributors. What is wrong with this picture: How dumb do the distributors think the people are?
I will tell you why Warsaw's gas prices are always 7 to 10 cents a gallon higher than other cities. Example: at the Clark Store in New Paris the price is $1.19-9/10 as of Thursday night.
Warsaw has had a retail gasoline marketing association since 1978-79, long before the convenience stores became popular. I managed one of two gas stations called Colonial Oil Co., from 1978 to 1980, in Warsaw. I was invited to join this association by one of the distributors who helped start it. I explained to this person that the people who own the stations were from Fort Wayne. They set the prices, not the local managers.
This distributor's employee would stop in and tell me every time the price was going up. He would ask me to raise our prices so we would only be one penny lower than the brand name stations' prices. I told him that I would call in the price increase when I see it on their signs. The office would tell me to raise the price or not raise the price. This usually resulted in the price being from 7 to 10 cents lower than the brand names' prices for one or two days, then the office (in Fort Wayne) would tell me to raise the price. Colonial Oil's prices would then be 3 to 5 cents per gallon lower than the brand names.
As long as there are no true discount stores in Warsaw that do not follow the local distributors who charge whatever they want, you will always pay more for gas in Warsaw.
Stephen R. Kuhn
Warsaw
Amazing Photograph
Editor, Times-Union:We were amazed to see how Gary Nieter photographed so many flags in our county and assembled them to make our flag come alive.
This masterpiece shows that we all love the flag which represents our country. Our sincere appreciation!
Harold and Mary Derry
Warsaw
No Gold Stars
Editor, Times-Union:Good luck to our men in Afghanistan in their attempt to rout out bin Laden and the al-Qaida organization. Let's hope that our military forces in Afghanistan are fortunate enough to be able to take care of old Osama and the Taliban before they gain another opportunity to bomb and destroy more innocent lives here in America and perhaps throughout the universe.
When it comes to deciding which is worse, World War II or today's conflict, I'd say that the "war" we are affiliated with at the present time is worse. During World War II, whenever we won the battle, we knew that the battle was won. We knew exactly who we were fighting, the Nazis or the Japs, and we knew just about where they were hanging out and they certainly were not hanging out here in these United States. That is, there was no destruction, no battles fought here on our land or unseen enemies lurking about. And now, despite what success we may attain in Afghanistan, when we attempt to weed out the enemy, how can we be certain that we can capture all of bin Laden's accomplices and cohorts? How are we going to know but what there might still be more secret terrorists in this country, lying in wait just around the corner - terrorists in disguises who are all too ready and willing to hijack another plane and wreak more havoc and destruction on our beloved America, " ... the land of the free, and the home of the brave?"
During World War II, patriotism reigned as it does today. Many front windows in American homes were embellished with bright, vivid stars; blue stars to represent the servicemen who were alive and fighting valiantly for their country and there were gold stars to signify that great numbers of soldiers, sailors and marines gave their lives in defense of "America The Beautiful."
Let's hope that very few gold stars show up in the windows of our good citizens this time around.
Don Kaiser
Warsaw
Ireland Grieves
Editor, Times-Union:The recent letter in the paper from the man in Germany to a couple here in Warsaw has prompted me to write this letter. It has made me realize that although there has been much on TV about the people of Palestine celebrating in the streets and the reactions of those who will not turn over bin Laden, how many people really know the extent to which the rest of the world has grieved over this tragedy?
There was a group of 11 of us who left Warsaw for Ireland on Sept. 7. We joined a much larger group of people at O'Hare Airport in Chicago and boarded a charter flight for Ireland. The first three days our tour bus driver had made several comments about what good friends Ireland and the U.S. are. How Ireland doesn't have to worry about bigger countries picking on them because they have the greatest armed services in the world - the United States Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps. The U.S. was the first country to recognize Ireland as an independent nation when they gained their freedom from England.
On the day of the terrorist attacks we heard about them about an hour after they happened. We were at a quay waiting for a ferry when one of the Irish men there heard it on the radio. He walked over to a nearby car, turned the radio up as loud as it would go and opened the doors so that we might gather around and hear the news.
On Friday we were to have a tour of Dublin, which the tour company did their best at considering everything was closed. As we approached the American Embassy where we were to get out so we could walk around and take pictures, our bus driver said, "I don't know what is going on up here but there are a lot of people and police. I don't know if I'll be able to let you down or not. The police may make me keep going." When we got closer we could see flowers piled around the fence of the Embassy. There was a sign announcing that there were cards of condolence there that could be signed and would be sent to America. The line of people was unbelievable. The bus driver kept saying that he couldn't believe all the people. That there had been a little of this when Lady Di died, but nothing like this!
While some people have asked if I was scared being there at that time, I would have to answer definitely not! I, in fact, felt protected and safe among the Irish people. The sympathy and understanding they showed us was unbelievable. They were very considerate of us and I felt bent over backwards for us.
"OUT OF THE DEEPEST SYMPATHY AND RESPECT FOR THE VICTIMS OF THE TRAGEDY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THIS STORE WILL BE CLOSED ON FRIDAY 14TH SEPTEMBER. (OUR HEARTS ARE WITH YOU)
Laura Utter
Warsaw
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