Letters to the Editor 01-25-2005
July 28, 2016 at 4:25 p.m.
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- Good Samaritan - Response To Secession - Hunting And Farming - DNR Information
Good Samaritan
Editor, Times-Union:I would like to thank the wonderful man who plowed out my driveway on Sunday, Jan. 23. Saturday evening the strong winds and the snowplows that were cleaning my road had closed the end of my driveway up pretty tight.
Having asthma, I knew I wouldn't be able to shovel it out. Usually I can just drive my car back and forth and flatten it out with tire tracks, but it was just too full this time. So Sunday morning I was sitting in my living room praying to God that he would make the sunshine melt the snow before I had to leave for work Monday morning.
About two hours later I heard a motor and when I got up to look there was a man, who I did not recognize, on a tractor with a blade and he was cleaning the end of my drive! I can't tell you the relief I felt to know I could get to work Monday morning! So I'm hoping that he gets the Times-Union and can read this letter! Sir, I would like to thank you very, very much for your random act of kindness!
It really meant a lot to me and I just want you to know that it was appreciated so much that you took your time and went out in the cold and did something so nice and thoughtful for a stranger. God really does send angels!
Sally Goon
Leesburg
via e-mail
Response To Secession
Editor, Times-Union:In response to Secession:
The reason the North made every effort to preserve the Union is so that the next step from the South would not be to secede from the Union, which would be "morally wrong" to a normal person. You present a moral wrong in America by wanting to secede from the Union because the majority of this country does not want to because they are intelligent enough to know (obviously you are not) that they live in the greatest country in the world.
America, love it or leave it. In your case I emphasize leave please. United we stand, divided we fall. Obviously you would like us to fall. I along with the majority of the country, would rather that we did not fall. The amendments you propose are not only absurd, they are un-American, like you. No one in the United States is forced to associate with the United States, they can leave whenever they like, although you may not want to leave, I wish you would, right now, as I'm sure most other good Americans do. As far as you even trying to get the majority anywhere in the U.S., you will not. Try as hard as you want, I will enjoy knowing how hard you will work, only to waste your pathetic life. People like you probably enjoyed 9/11, and can sympathize with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Although freedom of speech is one of our wonderful rights in the U.S., people like you abuse and exploit it, bringing shame to yourselves and disappointment to true Americans.
Kent Coldren
Warsaw
via e-mail
Hunting And Farming
Editor, Times-Union:I am writing in response to hunting and farming and how similar they are. I am one of the families that has this on two sides of my property. Miss Rhoades compares this to raising beef. I fail to see the similarities. I was raised on a farm, and also raised and showed beef in 4-H for 10 years. My 4-H calves did end up on my plate. But the difference in beef farming and canned hunts are nothing in the same. I never shot my 4-H calf, or let anyone interested for a price to come and chase it around a pasture to shoot it. I never cut off its head and stuck in on my wall, then to throw the whole animal in an incinerator and then throwing away the meat. Let's be honest it's not about the meat it's about the trophy head.
Ethically is it wrong? That is up the individual. Personally I don't care if people hunt or not. My problem with canned hunts are anyone can come on this property and shoot a whitetail deer, elk or exotic animal for a price, 365 days of the year. What are the shooting abilities of these hunters? I believe my beef were slaughtered at a processing plant. Never was there the chance of one of my children or my horses of being shot.
What does this do to any one of the property values of these homes surrounding this? I believe that this is not an issue for you because it is not around your home. Even the owner of this canned hunt does not live on this property.
And last, I have had the police called to my property three times for my son and husband riding four-wheeler and their dirt bikes on our own property. Only because they make too much noise for his hunters. When does what he does on his property supercede what we do on ours? I only wish you would have come and talked with some of the neighbors that are surrounded by this. We have been threatned repeatedly.
So really is this just about the deer? My issues our the safety aspect, property values and raising my children in a safe environment and never having to worry about my children or my horses being shot by some hunter who has to pay to kill a deer. So next time you judge the neighbors with signs, why don't you talk to them first!
Robin Zwick
Pierceton
via e-mail
DNR Information
Editor, Times-Union:To Mr. Hyden:
Before Thanksgiving I contacted the DNR through the number listed in the phone book and was transferred within their department two times, so I do not know which division gave me the information, but ... I was told that elk was classified along with black bear and grizzly bear and that there was no caliber gun limit, no hunting season and no permit needed.
They referred me to Bloomington area office where the CO had better knowledge of the elk farm "problem" (their quote, not mine). Bloomington referred me back to the Tri County manager.
The manager said he thought that there was no caliber limit, but I should call Indianapolis. Since I had already called Indianapolis, I didn't think I needed to call them again. So I give up.
If you want to say there is a gun limit, fine. If I can't get the same answer from the DNR than you can, there is a problem within the DNR. Using your gun facts, we still have a big gun problem in our backyards. The biggest problems are the danger we face everyday and what has happened to our property values. Our property rights are being totally ignored. My best suggestion to solve this problem is for one of the neighbors who currently leases him open land should trade fields with him and put the 8-foot fence up next to the owner, everyone could still shoot whatever caliber when they want in the new field and no one would have this in their backyard.
Barbara E. Kintzel
Pierceton
via e-mail
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Good Samaritan
Editor, Times-Union:I would like to thank the wonderful man who plowed out my driveway on Sunday, Jan. 23. Saturday evening the strong winds and the snowplows that were cleaning my road had closed the end of my driveway up pretty tight.
Having asthma, I knew I wouldn't be able to shovel it out. Usually I can just drive my car back and forth and flatten it out with tire tracks, but it was just too full this time. So Sunday morning I was sitting in my living room praying to God that he would make the sunshine melt the snow before I had to leave for work Monday morning.
About two hours later I heard a motor and when I got up to look there was a man, who I did not recognize, on a tractor with a blade and he was cleaning the end of my drive! I can't tell you the relief I felt to know I could get to work Monday morning! So I'm hoping that he gets the Times-Union and can read this letter! Sir, I would like to thank you very, very much for your random act of kindness!
It really meant a lot to me and I just want you to know that it was appreciated so much that you took your time and went out in the cold and did something so nice and thoughtful for a stranger. God really does send angels!
Sally Goon
Leesburg
via e-mail
Response To Secession
Editor, Times-Union:In response to Secession:
The reason the North made every effort to preserve the Union is so that the next step from the South would not be to secede from the Union, which would be "morally wrong" to a normal person. You present a moral wrong in America by wanting to secede from the Union because the majority of this country does not want to because they are intelligent enough to know (obviously you are not) that they live in the greatest country in the world.
America, love it or leave it. In your case I emphasize leave please. United we stand, divided we fall. Obviously you would like us to fall. I along with the majority of the country, would rather that we did not fall. The amendments you propose are not only absurd, they are un-American, like you. No one in the United States is forced to associate with the United States, they can leave whenever they like, although you may not want to leave, I wish you would, right now, as I'm sure most other good Americans do. As far as you even trying to get the majority anywhere in the U.S., you will not. Try as hard as you want, I will enjoy knowing how hard you will work, only to waste your pathetic life. People like you probably enjoyed 9/11, and can sympathize with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Although freedom of speech is one of our wonderful rights in the U.S., people like you abuse and exploit it, bringing shame to yourselves and disappointment to true Americans.
Kent Coldren
Warsaw
via e-mail
Hunting And Farming
Editor, Times-Union:I am writing in response to hunting and farming and how similar they are. I am one of the families that has this on two sides of my property. Miss Rhoades compares this to raising beef. I fail to see the similarities. I was raised on a farm, and also raised and showed beef in 4-H for 10 years. My 4-H calves did end up on my plate. But the difference in beef farming and canned hunts are nothing in the same. I never shot my 4-H calf, or let anyone interested for a price to come and chase it around a pasture to shoot it. I never cut off its head and stuck in on my wall, then to throw the whole animal in an incinerator and then throwing away the meat. Let's be honest it's not about the meat it's about the trophy head.
Ethically is it wrong? That is up the individual. Personally I don't care if people hunt or not. My problem with canned hunts are anyone can come on this property and shoot a whitetail deer, elk or exotic animal for a price, 365 days of the year. What are the shooting abilities of these hunters? I believe my beef were slaughtered at a processing plant. Never was there the chance of one of my children or my horses of being shot.
What does this do to any one of the property values of these homes surrounding this? I believe that this is not an issue for you because it is not around your home. Even the owner of this canned hunt does not live on this property.
And last, I have had the police called to my property three times for my son and husband riding four-wheeler and their dirt bikes on our own property. Only because they make too much noise for his hunters. When does what he does on his property supercede what we do on ours? I only wish you would have come and talked with some of the neighbors that are surrounded by this. We have been threatned repeatedly.
So really is this just about the deer? My issues our the safety aspect, property values and raising my children in a safe environment and never having to worry about my children or my horses being shot by some hunter who has to pay to kill a deer. So next time you judge the neighbors with signs, why don't you talk to them first!
Robin Zwick
Pierceton
via e-mail
DNR Information
Editor, Times-Union:To Mr. Hyden:
Before Thanksgiving I contacted the DNR through the number listed in the phone book and was transferred within their department two times, so I do not know which division gave me the information, but ... I was told that elk was classified along with black bear and grizzly bear and that there was no caliber gun limit, no hunting season and no permit needed.
They referred me to Bloomington area office where the CO had better knowledge of the elk farm "problem" (their quote, not mine). Bloomington referred me back to the Tri County manager.
The manager said he thought that there was no caliber limit, but I should call Indianapolis. Since I had already called Indianapolis, I didn't think I needed to call them again. So I give up.
If you want to say there is a gun limit, fine. If I can't get the same answer from the DNR than you can, there is a problem within the DNR. Using your gun facts, we still have a big gun problem in our backyards. The biggest problems are the danger we face everyday and what has happened to our property values. Our property rights are being totally ignored. My best suggestion to solve this problem is for one of the neighbors who currently leases him open land should trade fields with him and put the 8-foot fence up next to the owner, everyone could still shoot whatever caliber when they want in the new field and no one would have this in their backyard.
Barbara E. Kintzel
Pierceton
via e-mail
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